cbs, cnn, all the polls are showing that, in fact, they believe that ryan won. so i don't know where jehmu is getting her polls from. maybe from the democratic national committee. i want to show something that's on facebook. >> eric: this is becoming a fundraising tool for both sides. look at this. this is a take off on kanye west in 2009 when he interrupted taylor swift. this is from the national republican congressional committee. as you can see, it says, you know, let me interrupt you, let me finish. no, i'm not, so the republicans are using that to try to raise money against joe biden. but the democrats are supporting him. look at this. they're saying, way to go, joe. and they're now -- that's a bunch of malarky. jehmu, which side will win? >> i think vice president biden did what he needed to. there is no question and democrats haven't sat back and whined the way that republicans have. we were clear in saying look, president obama was not up to his best game in that first debate. but vice president biden absolutely has basically surged back the base of the